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              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2  Num. 08
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           MEDICAL DOCTOR PUTS HIS LIFE ON THE LINE
           TO PROVE THE HIV VIRUS DOES NOT CAUSE AIDS

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(Disclaimer: "...traditional sexually transmitted diseases [e.g.
syphilis], and the massive antibiotic-dosing that goes with
repeated incidents of these diseases, is very immunosuppressive.
So one doesn't have to swear allegiance to current AIDS research
to favor safer sex.")

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>From a full page ad in *The Spotlight*, September 12, 1994:


If you or someone you know has tested positive for the HIV virus,
there is now good news.

The chances you will get sick or die from AIDS are no greater
than if the test came out negative.

The *London Times* reports a major research group has recently
proven the test for the HIV virus (which is claimed to cause
AIDS) is completely invalid and "riddled with false positives".

Malnutrition, multiple infections, malaria, multiple sclerosis,
tuberculosis, having once had the "flu" or measles and even the
body's own natural response to anal semen all result in positive
HIV/AIDS tests. {1}.

Now the truth is finally revealed. When a completely normal and
healthy person tests positive for HIV, is then put on the deadly
drug AZT {2} -- they die. Death results from the destruction of
the immune system caused by the deadly drug AZT and not by HIV.

I interviewed Dr. Robert E. Willner, a medical doctor who has
practiced and lectured on medicine worldwide for over 35 years.
He recently stunned Spain by innoculating himself with the blood
of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. {3}. Dr. Willner is
the author of the just published blockbuster book *Deadly
Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause
AIDS*.

    Caption from an accompanying photograph:
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    Author of *Deadly Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV
    Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS*, Dr. Robert E. Willner
    stuns Spain by innoculating himself with the blood of
    Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. This
    demonstration to prove the HIV virus does not cause AIDS
    and is in fact harmless was reported on the front page
    of every major newspaper in Spain. His appearance on
    Spain's most popular television show evoked a 4 to 1
    response by the viewing audience in favor of his
    position against the "AIDS Hypothesis", yet this
    historic event was never mentioned in the U.S. press...
    Why?
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Q:
Dr. Willner, you say in your book AIDS is the greatest fraud in
medical history. {4}. That the perpetrators of this crime are
raking in billions while innocent people are being murdered with
the deadly drug AZT. Is AIDS a scam?


A:
No, people are indeed dying of Acquired Immune Deficiency
Syndrome or AIDS. The scam is that AIDS is not caused by HIV and
AIDS is not transmitted sexually or by any other means.

The real causes of AIDS have been known for centuries and have
been listed in medical textbooks for over 60 years. We have all
been lied to and sold a bill of goods by a handful of
unscrupulous, immoral scientists that care more for money and
power than they do for the truth or human life itself.

Most of the medically supervised AIDS deaths were either caused
or contributed to by the deadly drug AZT. In many cases it was
given to perfectly normal and healthy individuals who were
terrorized by fear from the AIDS media blitz [CN -- or
"blitzkrieg" perhaps?] into taking the phony HIV test. When a
percentage got positive test results they were then given lethal
doses of AZT, a drug that was shelved over 20 years ago because
it was found to be too toxic to give to terminally ill cancer
patients.


Q:
We have been told all along that all AIDS patients had the HIV
virus and that is what causes AIDS.


A:
That is an absolute lie! The HIV/AIDS hypothesis was based on the
fact that only 40% of AIDS cases were confirmed by the Centers
for Disease Control to have *antibodies* to HIV and *not the
virus itself*. In New York and San Francisco only 7% of AIDS
victims were HIV positive. This means that 60 to 93% of all AIDS
patients that were used to create the AIDS hypothesis were HIV
*negative*.

The entire AIDS hypothesis is based upon a total lie. We were all
lied to when we were led to believe that 100% of AIDS victims
were HIV positive.


Q:
But how could this happen?


A:
To answer that question we must examine just exactly who created
this great lie. It was none other than Dr. Robert Gallo, who was
investigated and found guilty of "scientific misconduct". The
very same Dr. Robert Gallo who just a few years prior to AIDS
discovered what he called the HTLV virus. He claimed that HTLV
caused human leukemia but failed to gain scientific acceptance
because he could not prove it.

Gallo likewise claimed that HTLV was sexually transmitted and had
a latent period of 40 years.

That theory was rejected and failed to gain Dr. Gallo acceptance
into the National Academy of Sciences. His theories on AIDS are
just as fallacious and one cannot help but see the similarities
in the scenario.

However, this time instead of trying to prove his insane theories
about AIDS to his peers, without scientific proof, he by-passed
them and went public.

Then, with the help of Margaret Heckler, former head of Health
and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to
come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous world press
announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came
about.

This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of
thousands of individuals world-wide. It was no accident that
Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the
announcement to the world was made. It likewise is no accident
that Gallo is now a multimillionaire because of the AIDS fraud
and his fraudulent AIDS test.


Q:
Are you saying that Dr. Gallo created AIDS?


A:
In a manner of speaking, yes he did. By taking a number of
diseases that were killing a select group of individuals and
claiming that they all had one thing in common -- the innocent
retrovirus he now called HIV which he also claimed was sexually
transmitted.

The truth is that these individuals were indeed dying of a
variety of diseases and they all did have one thing in common,
but it had nothing to do with their sexual preference or with
Gallo's harmless so-called "mysterious" HIV retrovirus.

They were all dying from specific causes that I go into great
detail explaining in my book. {5}. The information is completely
documented and based on cold, hard scientific facts -- not on the
phony unproven guesswork or the fraud-laced hypothesis that is
the very foundation of Gallo's ridiculous AIDS theory.


Q:
But Dr. Gallo showed us pictures of the HIV virus attacking T-
cells.


A:
The photographs Gallo purported to be HIV "invading" a cell, were
actually photos of phagocytosis, which is exactly the opposite
(the process by which the cell engulfs the virus). Whenever the
virus is found it is never doing anything and is never harming
the cell in any way.

Gallo also reported that AIDS originated in Haiti, in spite of
the fact that HIV antibodies were discovered in frozen blood
samples in the United States more than 50 years ago. Where was
the "epidemic" then?


Q:
How do you answer proponents of the HIV/AIDS connection when they
argue that "everyone knows that HIV causes AIDS"?


A:
Once "everyone knew" the earth was flat and the sun revolved
around it. It has been more than 12 years since the so-called
"discovery" of AIDS. Yet, there is still not one single reference
paper that exists in the world that proves HIV causes AIDS. In
other words, no experimental proof whatsoever has been offered to
establish that this harmless retrovirus, which cannot even be
found in 50 percent of the individuals with AIDS, has anything to
do with it.


Q:
Isn't is true that any disease capable of destroying the human
body is always found in vast numbers in the infected person?


A:
Yes, of course. Yet, even the highly sensitive polymerase chain
reaction (PCR) invented by Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize Laureate,
which literally makes it impossible for viruses to hide, can't
find Gallo's HIV virus in sufficient quantities to give someone
the flu let alone kill them.

HIV is rarely found in T-cells (1 virus per 10,000 to 1,000,000
cells) and when it is found it is doing absolutely nothing. In
cases of full blown AIDS, even in those just hours from death,
the virus is extremely difficult to find; and in 50 percent of
the cases it cannot be found at all. Whenever it is found, even
in active cases of AIDS, HIV is inactive, not reproducing and it
is certainly not killing T-cells as Gallo claims.


Q:
Then what exactly is HIV?


A:
HIV is simply a piece of dead tissue not unlike numerous other
retroviruses that exist in our body at any given time. It is one
thousandth the size of a regular cell, is harmless and is simply
incapable of doing anything that Gallo claims of it.

Retroviruses can't even reproduce themselves. They need a host
cell to reproduce them. If the retrovirus kills the host cell, as
Gallo claims HIV does, then the virus has immediately committed
suicide -- any possible epidemic is over before it began.

T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells) {6} reproduce 500
times faster than the HIV virus is supposedly reproduced. This
simply means that even if the HIV/AIDS hypothesis were correct it
is impossible for HIV to ever win the battle. It's like saying
you are going to conquer China by giving a noncontagious flu to 3
soldiers a day while their army increases by 1,500 troops daily.
Retroviruses such as HIV have been thought to cause many diseases
in the past, but extensive, honest research has proven them
basically harmless.


Q:
Does Dr. Mullis share your contention about HIV and AIDS?


A:
Yes he does. Dr. Mullis says: "*Scientists don't believe, they
have evidence... There is no such body of knowledge*" (with
reference to HIV as the cause of AIDS).

Dr. Peter Duesberg, Professor of Molecular Biology, University of
California, Berkeley, and member of the National Academy of
Sciences, puts it even more distinctly. He writes, "*HIV does not
cause AIDS... The point that everyone is missing is that all of
those original papers Gallo wrote on HIV have been fraudulent...
The HIV hypothesis was based on those papers*."


Q:
Are there others who also support your position?


A:
Nearly 500 of the world's top scientists are now challenging
Gallo's hypothesis that HIV causes AIDS and the list is growing
daily. Every statistic, every valid scientific observation and
even the test of time now proves Gallo wrong. It was only a
matter of time until thinking scientists raised their heads out
of the sand, saw the truth and started questioning the lies that
simply did not stand up to the scrutiny of impartial scientific
reasoning and experimentation.

[CN -- The following is emphasized in the original.]

    Project AIDS International [PAI] charges that "the
    dogmatic AIDS hypothesis based on the findings of a
    person convicted of science fraud, is directly or
    indirectly responsible for the premature deaths of
    hundreds of thousands of people worldwide." PAI further
    goes on to say: "If action is not taken immediately
    against those who are directly or indirectly responsible
    for these crimes against humanity through the practice
    of profit over life, the drug induced AIDS deaths will
    most certainly reach proportions unparalleled by any
    natural catastrophe in human history."


Q:
What about Dr. Gallo's contention that HIV is a slow "mysterious"
and "intelligent" virus.


A:
Dr. Duesberg, renowned as one of, if not the world's foremost
retrovirologist, answers that question by saying that [CN --
emphasis in original]:

    "Slow" or "lente" viruses do not exist! It is another
    hypothetical invention designed to explain what is
    obviously nonsense. It has no basis in fact, no
    precedent in science, and is contradictory to 20 years
    of research findings. {7}. Retroviruses can only be
    replicated by the host cell, and are dependent on the
    life-cycle of that cell. Therefore, the virus must
    replicate within hours or days in order to survive. For
    over 20 years, an exhaustive investigation of
    retroviruses reveals that there is no such thing as a
    "slow" virus.

There is nothing biochemically or genetically different about HIV
that would give it the power to act any differently than any
other retrovirus. As Dr. Duesberg so aptly puts it, "*There are
no slow viruses, only slow virologists*."


Q:
Did you always know HIV was not the true cause of AIDS?


A:
No. I have to admit that in the beginning I too believed Gallo's
big lie. But the more I learned about retroviruses the more the
AIDS hypothesis didn't make sense.


Q:
But how could so many honest scientists be so easily fooled?


A:
Again Dr. Duesberg answers that question best by writing: "*After
a frustrating 20-year long search for a human cancer virus, the
club (the retrovirologists) was craving for some clinical
relevance for the retrovirus and hence, happily adopted HIV --
the AIDS virus -- as the cause of AIDS*." He went on to explain
the impact of the powerful promotion that made the AIDS
hypothesis "*instant national dogma*". The billions of dollars in
funding, the economic interests of the bio-technology and
pharmaceutical companies and the tremendous notoriety from the
press was too much for these retrovirologists to resist.


Q:
Surely there were a few independent scientists who tried to
expose this fraud?


A:
There were, and as an example of how their dissension was
squelched I'll quote Dr. Joseph Sonnabend, founder of the AIDS
Medical Foundation. His is typical of how opposition to the AIDS
hypothesis was dealt with. Dr. Sonnabend writes "...*I tried to
show that HTLV-1 (HIV) was not involved in AIDS. All the journals
refused to publish it*."

After 21 years of intensive research, not one clinically-relevant
retrovirus has ever been discovered, and by scientific standards
HIV is no exception. You also have to understand that when
Margaret Heckler, head of Health and Human Services [HHS],
adopted HIV as the cause of AIDS, basically all institutions
which rely on federal government funding or grants had to go
along and cooperate or face extinction. HHS is the paymaster for
all health departments and agencies. This includes the National
Institutes of Health.


Q:
The proponents of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, led by Dr. Gallo,
dismiss all opposition as not being worthy of their time to
openly debate. I understand from your book they even had the
supreme audacity to boycott a meeting in the White House when an
open discussion of the facts and opposing views were to be
presented. Is this true?


A:
Yes, that is how they operate. These scoundrels defend their
position by name calling and avoiding debate because they cannot
support their position scientifically. Their followers are either
ignorant of the truth or are going along with the lie because
that's where the money is. Let me put it to you this way. If you
knew or [were] unknowingly duped into playing a part in what has
turned out to be the greatest genocide since Adolph Hitler, would
you find it easy to embrace the truth and openly admit it?


Q:
What about Kimberly Bergalis {8}, and Magic Johnson?


A:
Kimberly Bergalis would still be alive today if she were not
given AZT. Magic Johnson is probably as healthy today as he ever
was and will continue to live a long and happy life so long as he
does not take AZT or any other deadly drug.


Q:
Why did you innoculate yourself with the blood of an HIV positive
hemophiliac?


A:
Because I cannot stand by and watch the profession I love be
deceitfully used to commit murder by following the Gallo
HIV/AIDS' death banner. I have vowed that if it is necessary I
will repeat the process of sticking myself with the blood of an
HIV positive person on television in every city in the world
until this genocide stops. I am a physician and I will keep the
oath I took.


Q:
Dr. Willner, in *Deadly Deception* you say AZT is one of the
chief causes of AIDS. Can you elaborate further for our readers?


A:
Yes, and again I will begin by quoting Dr. Peter Duesberg [CN --
emphasis in original]:

    "AZT is a random killer of infected and non-infected
    cells. AZT cannot discriminate among them. It kills T-
    cells; B-cells; red cells, it kills all cells. AZT is a
    chain terminator of DNA synthesis of all cells -- no
    exceptions. It wipes out everything. In the long run it
    can only lead to death and the cemetary. AZT is a
    certain killer! Who will be responsible for the death of
    patients (some 200,000 now being treated with AZT and
    countless thousands who have already died from it in the
    past decade) that results from AZT therapy --
    pharmacological homicide?"

The makers of AZT claim "*it increases the quality of life*."
Yet, all one needs do is read the package insert that comes with
AZT and you will learn the truth: The side effects of AZT as
listed on its own package inserts are: *Cancer* (lymphomas),
*Hepatitis*, *Dementia*, *Mania* (madness, frenzy), *Seizures*
(epileptic), *Anxiety*, *Anemia*, *Leukopenia* (standard
laboratory evidence of immune suppression), *Impotence*, *Severe
Nausea*, *Chest Pain*, *Insomnia*, *Ataxia* (loss of balance),
*Depression*, *Muscle Atrophy* (wasting), and this is only half
of the death sentence list of side effects that AZT causes. Does
this sound like AZT adds to the quality of life to you or does it
sound like what it really is -- *AIDS*!


Q:
Are there other causes of AIDS?


A:
Yes, there are and I explain each and every known cause of AIDS
in great detail in my book. And, may I add, not one of them is
sexually transmitted or HIV related.


Q:
What can a person suffering from Acquired Immune Deficiency or
AIDS do?


A:
There are actually many things a person with AIDS can do if there
is enough time and in most cases there is. The first and most
important thing is to get off of any type of immune suppressive
drug whether it be recreational, prescription or over the
counter, immediately. Secondly, don't be conned into taking AZT
or any other last minute, last chance, miracle drug. If you are,
it will most certainly prove to be your last chance at life.
Thirdly, stop believing the lie that you are going to die.
Finally, get and read a copy of my book *Deadly Deception* as
soon as possible. It contains the information you need to
strengthen your immune system. Follow what it tells you and you
will probably be O.K.

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{1} Much of this has long since been reported by Jon Rappoport in
his 1988 book, *AIDS Inc.*. I recently took some heat, by the
way, for daring to post my synopsis of Rappoport's book. One
person told me "It's o.k. to discuss political conspiracies. But
one mustn't discuss medical conspiracies." I'll spare you the
"reasoning" behind this.

{2} "...the deadly drug AZT." See, for example, *Poison By
Prescription: The AZT Story* by John Lauritsen (New York:
Asklepios, 1990). So the scam is, they tell you that you have got
the dread HIV, then they poison you to death with AZT, then they
bury you ASAP.

{3} "...[innoculated] himself with the blood of... an HIV
positive hemophiliac." Dr. Peter Duesberg, another "AIDS
heretic", has also offered to innoculate himself with HIV in
order to underline his disbelief in current AIDS dogma.

{4} "...the greatest fraud in medical history." Similar to
Rappoport in 1988, "Scandal of the Century".

{5} "...that I go into great detail explaining in my book." Note
to persons, most notably *canus lupus mortuus*, who betray
themselves by their over-eagerness to throw mud on such
"heresies" as contained in this post: How about reading Dr.
Willner's book *IN ITS ENTIRETY* before you start taking your
cheap shots? *Then* you can say things like "Where's the
documentation?" (Duh, try looking in the book.) and "What about
such-and-such?" (Duh, try reading the book. This is just a
condensed summation.).
   This "heresy" is not going to disappear by your throwing mud
at it. In addition, one must wonder at the over-eagerness of
supposed "debunkers" to quickly throw mud. If you want this
"heresy" regarding HIV and AIDS to go away, you are going to have
to come down from Mount Olympus and explain to us mere mortals
exactly why it just ain't so. Incantations, magic dust and magic
bones do not impress *me*, anyway. Logic does. If you can refute
what several AIDS "heretics" have been saying -- THEN DO SO AND
IN PLAIN ENGLISH. If these are, in fact, "heresies", then you
ought to be able to sit down and carefully write a logical and
understandable explanation as to why.
   The fact that, at this late date, very little in the way of a
calm, careful, and reasoned rebuttal (not just pot shots taken at
minor points) has been offered is, *in itself*, cause for alarm.
If these "heresies" are easily refuted, then one must wonder why
this hasn't been done but that, rather, cheap, bullying tactics
have been used.

{6} "T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells)..." Note
here, for example, how difficult terms are immediately explained.
Would that some of the dogmatists of AIDS could do likewise.

{7} "...is contradictory to 20 years of research findings." The
interviewer adds, "(and I might add billions of dollars in
funding)".

{8} Kimberly Bergalis. As I recall, she was the woman in Florida
who claimed she had contracted AIDS via her dentist -- not
through sex but through just being a normal dental patient.

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Final note:
This book is not yet available in bookstores. Because there may
be those who want to get a hold of the book, because I cannot
just tell them "Go to the library" or "Order it through a local
bookstore", I am providing information on how to get the book.
Note that I make no profit by doing so. If you can get this book
in some other way than as follows, then fine. This information is
provided to increase knowledge, understanding, and awareness.

*Deadly Deception* by Dr. Robert E. Willner
By phone: Call 1-800-214-3645, and ask for operator 101D
By mail: $23.95 + $3.95 shipping and handling ($27.90 total)
Peltec Publishing Co., Inc. Dept. 101D
4400 N. Federal Highway, Suite 210
Boca Raton, FL  33431

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